bush came in with a lead, not huge, he came in to play for a draw and john kerry came in to win. the exact same happened tonight. mitt romney came in to win this debate with passion and it looked as if the president came in, as long as i play for a draw, i keep a lead and go forward. if that's the case, i think a very close race just got a lot closer. >> really? played for a draw and succeeded? >> no, the president played for a draw, but the guy that comes in and plays for a win usually gets the victory. >> does a tie go to the challenger? >> i think it will go to the president, because he is the income dent. i believe mitt romney did himself a lot of good. he came to play. he came to change the script in this campaign and he was able to do that tonight by talking about the things that he's done in a bipartisan fashion, but i think the president had to lay out what he will do in the future. he was able to do that. but tonight, mitt romney was a little bit more aggressive than the president. >> and austin, president obama trying to go against mitt romney's tax plan, but you saw ti